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under the Flat hat

The fight for truth didn’t end with the uniform.

 

Hosted by former park rangers Chris Burnette and Kevin Heatley, Under the Flat Hat pulls back the curtain on what really happens inside America’s public lands—and to the people who protect them. Through candid stories, insider insight, and a dose of humor, the hosts explore the intersections of law, leadership, and landscape while shining a light on the realities of federal service, conservation, and accountability.

 

Also, because they are no longer federal employees bound by legal restrictions, they have the ability to say and talk about things that current rangers and staff cannot without taking a great risk, including violating ethics rules, their families, or their careers. 

This page is your hub for everything Under the Flat Hat—listen in through our video gallery, meet the hosts, dive into production notes, and explore bonus materials that bring each story to life. Produced by El Burno Studios, where creativity meets conservation.

Listen. Learn. Laugh. And remember—our fight for truth didn’t end when we took off the hat. 

Listener Notes:

Explicit Language- This show is mostly family-friendly—think ranger humor meets real talk—but occasional episodes include explicit language. We keep it respectful, yet some stories dive into the raw, unfiltered realities of public service and life on the federal front lines.

Disclaimer- The views and content presented by El Burno Productions are for general information and education only. Nothing in our videos, books, shows, podcasts, or website should be taken as legal advice or relied upon for any legal purpose. Always consult a qualified professional regarding your specific situation.

 

We are currently in production so only a few videos are uploaded at this time. The final format, feel, topics, and other materials may change as we figure out how everything works, what we want to do, and work to make it something to be proud of. 

 

We appreciate your patience and support while we go through this process! 

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Click here to find other materials related to the show, such as productions notes, episode notes, useful links, further reading, and more!

Under the Flat Hat Videos

Under the Flat Hat Videos

Under the Flat Hat Videos
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National Parks
News & Politics
Public Lands
Oregon Parks Forever Interview

Oregon Parks Forever Interview

58:50
What the @#$% are you wearing?

What the @#$% are you wearing?

40:01
Yeah, I used to be Somebody: The Kevin Story

Yeah, I used to be Somebody: The Kevin Story

39:59
The Chris Chronicles-an Introduction

The Chris Chronicles-an Introduction

46:59

Meet the Team

Meet the Team Behind the Mic!
 

Get to know the voices and creative minds behind Under the Flat Hat. From former park rangers to producers and artists, our team brings firsthand experience, humor, and heart to every episode—sharing real stories from America’s public lands and the people who protect them.

Couple in Nature

Notes and other Materials 

​Useful Links

  1. National Park Service

  2. Department of the Interior

  3. Chris's Law Firm Website

Resources & Links

Mentioned on Under the Flat Hat:

  1. Oregon Parks Forever​

  2. David's Chair

  3. Crip Camp: A Disability Revolution (Website)

    1. Film Available on Netflix & Youtube​

  4. Jonathon Jarvis' Substack

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