The fight for truth didn’t end with the uniform.

 

Hosted by former park rangers Chris Burnette and Kevin Heatley, Under the Flat Hat pulls back the curtain on what really happens inside America’s public lands—and to the people who protect them. Through candid stories, insider insight, and a dose of humor, the hosts explore the intersections of law, leadership, and landscape while shining a light on the realities of federal service, conservation, and accountability.

 

Also, because they are no longer federal employees bound by legal restrictions, they have the ability to say and talk about things that current rangers and staff cannot without taking a great risk, including violating ethics rules, their families, or their careers. 

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This page is your hub for everything Under the Flat Hat—listen in through our video gallery, meet the hosts, dive into production notes, and explore bonus materials that bring each story to life. Produced by El Burno Studios, where creativity meets conservation.

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Listen. Learn. Laugh. And remember—our fight for truth didn’t end when we took off the hat. 

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Listener Notes:

Explicit Language- This show is mostly family-friendly—think ranger humor meets real talk—but occasional episodes include explicit language. We keep it respectful, yet some stories dive into the raw, unfiltered realities of public service and life on the federal front lines.

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Disclaimer- The views and content presented by El Burno Productions are for general information and education only. Nothing in our videos, books, shows, podcasts, or website should be taken as legal advice or relied upon for any legal purpose. Always consult a qualified professional regarding your specific situation.

 

We are currently in production so only a few videos are uploaded at this time. The final format, feel, topics, and other materials may change as we figure out how everything works, what we want to do, and work to make it something to be proud of. 

 

We appreciate your patience and support while we go through this process! ​

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